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Just the Way It Was

Eight autobiographies · 1919 – 1957 · Louisiana to the Eastern Cape

Just the Way It Was

White Southerners Remember Jim Crow

Seven ordinary Southern White people (neither Klan members nor civil rights workers) wrote down their life stories. Each one tells what they saw under segregation, what they did not see, and what they told themselves about it. An eighth voice, a White South African, remembers apartheid from the inside.

Walter (Andy) Anderson, Jr. spent sixteen years collecting these life stories. All seven of his co-authors remembered legal segregation the same way: it was just the way it was. Andy is the only one still living. Here you can read them, and sit down with each of them, one question at a time.

Charlottesville, 2003

Two students stayed behind after class.

For twenty years Andy taught a course at the University of Virginia. Once each term he told his students what he remembered about race under Jim Crow. His point was simple: people can live beside an injustice for years without seeing it, especially when the injustice works in their favor.

Afterward, two students asked why he had not said more about the racial violence. He told them he had not seen any. They thanked him and left unconvinced. He realized two things. They might be right. And the only way to find out was to ask other older Southern White people, while there was still time to ask them.

“I had not seen any racial violence, personally, and doubted many other Southern White people had.”
Preface

The injustices of segregation that are so obvious today, he writes, “we largely ignored or did not recognize at all.” The book asks the question hiding under that sentence: what are we failing to see now?

The Eight Voices

Select a name to open the chapter, or read all eight excerpts

Walter (Andy) Anderson Jr.

Pat Anderson

Ted Lala

Dorothea

Catherine

Nancy Virginia Shroyer Bain

Don

Father Joseph Wittstock

The Reading Room

Ask them what you would have asked.

Andy talked with each of these people for months, sometimes years. Seven of the eight have since died. What is left is the chapter each of them wrote. Here you can put your own question to it. Choose a name, sit down, and take your time.

The answers are written by artificial intelligence from that narrator’s chapter, not by the narrator. What that means, and where it can still be wrong.

AI

You are talking to an AI, not to the narrator. It answers only from that narrator’s chapter, and shows you the passage each answer came from.

The narrators use the words of their time, including racial slurs. Answers quote them as printed.

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The Method

Sixteen years, eight lives, one question.

These are not interviews dressed up as memoir. Each chapter is a life story told in the narrator's own voice, written with Andy over months of conversation and revision, and checked against United States census records, local newspapers, and county histories wherever that was possible.

A note on language: the narrators use the words they used at the time, including “Negro,” “Colored,” and worse. Andy left them in. Reading them is part of reading the book honestly.

2003 Two students stay behind after class and ask why Andy has not talked more about the racial violence.
2009 Andy writes his own life story first, so that his co-authors can see exactly what he is asking of them.
2008–2016 Six more narrators are recruited, from a range of social and economic backgrounds. None are Klan members. None are civil rights workers. Each is asked the same questions again and again, over years, until the memories come back in detail.
2016 Seven life stories are finished. All seven narrators remember segregation the same way: as just the way it was.
2024 Fr. Joseph Wittstock, by then Abbot of Holy Cross Abbey, completes the Afterword on apartheid.
author photo, andy anderson

The Author

Walter P. (Andy) Anderson, Jr.

Born in Oakdale, Louisiana in 1948 and raised in the Deep South, Andy is old enough to remember the last two years of Jim Crow segregation. He worked as a Licensed Professional Counselor in Charlottesville and taught for twenty years as an adjunct at the University of Virginia, where he has presented on race and related topics more than twenty times with Dr. Derick Williams.

He is the youngest of the eight narrators by sixteen years, and the only one still living. He retired in 2017.

“If many Southern White people failed to recognize the evil of Jim Crow, many of us are missing the injustices today that our great-grandchildren will see clearly.”

The Book · 2026

Read all eight in full.

Just the Way It Was: White Southerners Remember Jim Crow collects all eight life stories in full: 400 pages, with family photographs, maps, and footnotes, in paperback, hardcover, and ebook.

Published 14 October 2026 and available on Amazon as a Kindle ebook, paperback, and hardcover. Designed by Sarah E. Holroyd at Sleeping Cat Books.

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